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You know, Jigsaw is right: this is a perfectly good wheel. We don’t have to reinvent it, but we can wrap it in something to make it more intuitive.
InfrapinkYes, it's fine and it works perfectly well, but it can be better.
Let's refactor it into metal and rubber instead of wood, put an air-filled tube between the inner and outer layers. That will result in dramatically less wear and tear while also smoothing out bumps, thus making for a more comfortable ride.
itslilithNo, no, let's instead reduce friction by making it entirely out of steel, and lay down an even, steel surface for it to roll on, maybe in the shape of tracks
Cat_Daddy [mirror/your pronouns]Do I get to pick the color of the wheel? Can I have a different wheel material?
TimeSquirrelThis analogy doesn't really work because there are thousands of different wheels that all spin on an axis but are used for many different things. If the wheel was never reinvented or improved upon we wouldn't have automatic transmissions, rocket engine turbo pumps, gyroscopes, etc.
Bingo. We'd still have wooden cart wheels instead of rubber tires. And no trains, either. And no airplanes. Etc.
The funny part is that all the commenters up till now failed to leave the room :D
It's interesting. On the other major PH community, a good laugh was had at everyone's own expense. On this one, people are butthurt.
zqwzzleYou leave it alone and wait so that management doesn’t expect tasks to be completed quickly.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as a wheel, is in fact, a cart and a wheel, or as I've recently taken to calling it, a cart plus a wheel. A wheel is not a vehicle unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning cart system made useful by the cart's frame, steering components, and vital structural elements comprising a full vehicle as defined by cart-dynamics. Many people move things every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of the cart which is widely used today is often called "a wheel," and many of its users are not aware that it is basically a cart, developed by the Cart Project. There really is a wheel, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. A wheel is a part: the circular component in the system that allows the cart to roll across the ground. A wheel is an essential part of a cart, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete cart. A wheel is normally used in combination with the Cart System: the whole system is basically a cart with a wheel added, or a cart and a wheel.
Sorry guys. I let a llm rewrite it, I was too lazy.
thisisbutanameThe true one:
Here's a command line interface with vim open. Close it to disable the trap.
hello_hello [undecided, comrade/them]The level of smugness emanating from this meme is overwhelming, techbro levels of bad.
The wheel was never perfectly good actually, it was actually incredibly bad and needs to be fixed.
I tried to install the wheel into my project and now its flat. Can someone check my code on stack overflow? I dont know how to post my error logs.
I have been teaching myself rust. Rewriting this wheel in rust will be a good exercise for me...
Now that I am 95% done, I have lost interest in this project and have started another playthrough of Baldur's Gate 3. Maybe I will come back and finish it at some point.
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I've seen this so many more times from Microsoft than anywhere else. They even tried reinventing a regex syntax just for their IDE!
pff you call that working fine?
Actually! Wheel11 is really outdated, which is why im building wheeland, which is more secure and <...>
Not sure how this applies when:
It seems like it went from "Situation: there is one standard" to "Situation: there are two standards developed by largely the same people with one set to replace the other", and then soon: "Situation: there is one standard and one translation layer kept around for a decade or so for compatibility."
Not every single time someone tries to make things better is this xkcd relevant; this had nothing to do with unifying standards and everything to do with superseding one.
Huh neat. I kinda just assumed "wheel11" had 10 other versions and didnt realize it was an analogy for something irl
You are actually correct that Wheel11 had 10 other versions. It just happens that those 10 other versions were released before September 1987.
> Pretty much everything uses wayland now
> nVidia drivers don't work on Wayland
> ANGER
And that's why I'm getting AMD when I'll be
modernizingreplacing my setupWhat?
I'm using Wayland with nvidia-open drivers and I don't have a problem even using proton via Wayland for HDR.
I'm using the proprietary ones on Bazzite and they don't let me change my refresh rate - fortunately it only went from 75Hz to 60.
When I looked up the issue, the only reason I could find is that the drivers have issues with Wayland.
Ah.
I've used a few distros that locked specific patch levels and that's just one of the kinds of issues you deal with. Sometimes that version has a bug and you have to wait for the next major release to get the update.
I'm using a rolling release distro, which comes with a different set of problems. But, I have the latest drivers and Wayland updates and have not encountered any significant issues using high refresh rate, VRR, HDR even while gaming.
It's also possible that Bazzite is using gamescope which does have significant issues with NVIDIA, even still. But the newest versions of Proton support using Wayland directly (instead of XWayland), so it's possible to avoid using gamescope entirely without losing access to display features.
Obligatory "it works for me". I only had one issue with one game on Wayland. Some nvidia driver update fixed that a few months ago.
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If "the wheel" is achieved by making literally every application you run a keylogger, I'm very cool with Wayland "reinventing the wheel". X11's handling of user input is a fucking embarrassment.
Besides just the Steam Deck and Proton, a big reason people are finally sticking around on Linux is because using X11 feels exactly like what it is: a cobbled-together piece of archaic shit that needs to be left behind.
Wayland by contrast feels fantastic to run, and on my GTX 1070 with proprietary drivers, the only current issue I have with it is how Firefox picture-in-picture popouts don't stay on top by default.
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Has anyone so far stopped you from using your outmoded tangle of garbage? Or do you just not like that major desktop environments are switching to more sensible defaults?
If you're worried about GNOME 50 dropping X11 in the future... okay? Nobody's obliged to maintain your shit. Linux is all about choice, and it's their choice not to spend untold thousands of hours working to keep X11 usable, just like it's your choice to change your Linux to something that does still use it. Switch to any one of the other desktop environments; see if the Wayland Illuminati or whatever gives a shit.
'tis the wheeland experience :3. At least we can have monitors with different refresh rates tho
As is we do kinda have 2 standards, both equally bad, and you just have to pick your poison
Hey we are penguins not ducks
This again? Insert "wheel was reinvented plenty of times" comment here.
lemme yt-dlp this message so I can listen to it in the terminal for less distraction
the wheel doesnt need to be reinvented, but it does need to be broken down into its components so they can be used with other things that may need them.
the spoke, the circle, the tread, and the spoke hub should be broken up before accepting the PR.
I'm betting a certain highschool vibecoder will generate a million LOC before even trying the door.
Plot twist: once you accept the wheel without reinventing it, you have to pay a monthly wheel subscription.
I am fan of reinventing stuff that was frankensteined to kinda work in a modern world..
I don’t like hacky solutions.
Hope systemd is next.
OpenRC, Runit, dinit, s6, ...
The init wars!
(There is a comic somewhere here)
*frankensteind
Resisting the urge to reinvent the wheel to run myself over with it